The Black Salvage would like to introduce to you the inagural article from the newest addition to our team, Cynical Jubilee. Below is a brief introduction: "I'm a Religious Studies Philosophy major at MSU. I enjoy studying Religion for the sole purpose of tracing a HISTORICAL outline of religious origins and moral codes instead of bashing other's beliefs with the Tomfoolery they tried to brainwash me with in Sunday School. I'm here to present you all with historical FACTS, but I respect everyone's beliefs and opinions."
Since it’s the New Year and I’m new to the team, I find it very fitting to share some insight on the story of Genesis and propose a question that many choose to look over- Adam and Eve were the first two humans and they had two sons- Cain and Abel. One son kills the other, so:
WHO GAVE BIRTH TO HUMANITY?????
Where did where did Cain find a wife to reproduce with if there were no other humans on earth? Well, there are two books that come to mind that you won’t find in your KJV Bible that attempts to answer these questions. The first is a book in the Old Testament Apocrypha called "Jubilees" and it explains the beginning of creation starting with Genesis and ending with the parting of the Red Sea. The author is unknown but he tries to answer every possible question that may arise. You might as well call this book “Genesis—1st Draft”. The author claims that Adam and Eve had 9 sons and daughters. The youngest daughter name is Awan and she becomes Cain's wife and bears a son named Enoch at the end of the 4th Jubilee (one Jubilee=49 years). Just take a look at this passage from the Book of Jubilees:
Now I can understand why the ancient bishops wouldn’t favor this over Genesis when they were canonizing the Bible. If this book has any truth to it, scholars would gouge their eyes out at the mere thought of putting a story of incest in the Holy Book.
The second—and maybe even lesser known—book in a series of Old Testament Apocryphal books is the book of Enoch. At one hundred and eight chapters, it’s like a mini Revelations that predicts the end of the world through Noah’s flood. The book also contains visions of the fall of angels who impregnate earthly women and give birth to giants. Sounds like a twisted version of MTV’s The Real World, but think about this: How many of you would read more of your Bibles if there were page turns after page turns of sordid incest and mythical beasts? These two books attempt to provide insight to the unanswered questions that commonly arise to those reading the Bible but why then, would these—and many others—be excluded form the final draft? Could the answers to these burning questions about the birth of humanity be found in the pages of the books that are rarely read or are they just fanciful fiction compositions? You decide.
-Cynical Jubilee, 1/3/2009
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Since it’s the New Year and I’m new to the team, I find it very fitting to share some insight on the story of Genesis and propose a question that many choose to look over- Adam and Eve were the first two humans and they had two sons- Cain and Abel. One son kills the other, so:
WHO GAVE BIRTH TO HUMANITY?????
Where did where did Cain find a wife to reproduce with if there were no other humans on earth? Well, there are two books that come to mind that you won’t find in your KJV Bible that attempts to answer these questions. The first is a book in the Old Testament Apocrypha called "Jubilees" and it explains the beginning of creation starting with Genesis and ending with the parting of the Red Sea. The author is unknown but he tries to answer every possible question that may arise. You might as well call this book “Genesis—1st Draft”. The author claims that Adam and Eve had 9 sons and daughters. The youngest daughter name is Awan and she becomes Cain's wife and bears a son named Enoch at the end of the 4th Jubilee (one Jubilee=49 years). Just take a look at this passage from the Book of Jubilees:
"And Cain took ’Âwân his sister to be his wife and she bare him Enoch at
the close of the fourth jubilee. And in the first year of the first week of the fifth jubilee, houses were built on the earth, and Cain built a city, and called its name after the name of his son Enoch. And Adam knew Eve his wife and she bare yet nine sons.
And in the fifth week of the fifth jubilee Seth took ’Azûrâ his sister to be his wife, and in the fourth (year of the sixth week) she bare him Enos."
Jubilees 4:9-11
Now I can understand why the ancient bishops wouldn’t favor this over Genesis when they were canonizing the Bible. If this book has any truth to it, scholars would gouge their eyes out at the mere thought of putting a story of incest in the Holy Book.
The second—and maybe even lesser known—book in a series of Old Testament Apocryphal books is the book of Enoch. At one hundred and eight chapters, it’s like a mini Revelations that predicts the end of the world through Noah’s flood. The book also contains visions of the fall of angels who impregnate earthly women and give birth to giants. Sounds like a twisted version of MTV’s The Real World, but think about this: How many of you would read more of your Bibles if there were page turns after page turns of sordid incest and mythical beasts? These two books attempt to provide insight to the unanswered questions that commonly arise to those reading the Bible but why then, would these—and many others—be excluded form the final draft? Could the answers to these burning questions about the birth of humanity be found in the pages of the books that are rarely read or are they just fanciful fiction compositions? You decide.
-Cynical Jubilee, 1/3/2009
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ReplyDelete"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let THEM have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
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ReplyDeletei guess i see what your saying but take in mind that your making an implication based off your own interpretation...there are theoretically millions more interpretations of the same ambiguous passage from the millions of Christians out there. . .
i personally feel a divine text should be discrete and concise or else it really just renders itself null and void. but hey- that's just me. . .
obviously you are missing the point of the whole article...these are scriptures from actual books that weren't included in the modern canon that attempt to give answers to the questions that may arise out of genesis. whats your point of just posting a verse out the bible? CLEARLY because if u wrote anything after that, then it would be YOUR interpretation that someone else may disagree with. everything is not meant to be taken so literal
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting, because you can have 10 people read the same passage and will have all kinds of different interpretations of it. The simple fact that there are many different versions, accounts, and hear say on what happened, or was believed to had happened leaves many to be forced to do nothing else other then to interoperate anyone of them in their own light and views.
ReplyDeleteI agree that any text of that nature should be clear cut and simple and discrete, but that's for each person to evaluate on their own after reading and studying each text on its own merit.
You've pointed out that much of the Bible doesn't make any logical sense. That's why it takes faith to give it credence.
ReplyDeletejust my opinion.......so what's next? to discredit the bible? it is in accurate; therefore, it is irrelevant. We can continue with the questioning about who gave birth, but at what point do we stop the silly arguments and start asking about the moral state of human being? which religion contributes to the welfare of all human without any regard to race, beliefs, creed etc...again just my opinion....let's not be busy just to be busy, lets be fruitful
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Of course, as a minister, I am not going to say that there are NO OTHER "religious" papers in existence... of course, there were other writers during the same time that God was "commissioning" His own writers to record His words but are those other writers credible...are those other sources credible? It all depends. Some people believe that if they can be proven to have been written during the time period that was described THEN they are credible sources...
Well... I can write whatever I want and so can you and just because someone comes along and says "hey that woman really did live in the time period that she was writing about!!" does not mean that any of the writing was FACT.
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@ Francis- i agree...but how much does faith override logic?
ReplyDelete@?>education- im not here to discredit the bible. just enilighten some ppl on other theories...TRUST me, as a Religious Studies student, some people refuse to believe that other texts exists that negate the foundation of their very own understanding...just shedding light
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ReplyDeletebasically, we ALL write things the way we want them to look, ommitting the wording that make us look weak or questions our credibility...i trulu believe it
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We're told God made Adam and Eve. They had two sons, Cain and Able. Cain kills Abel. Then Adam and Eve had Seth before having other sons and daughters... without reading anything more into what was presented in Scripture, Cain have had to marry a sister or niece...
Oh, and the fallen angels taking human wives and raising giant, powerful children is in the Bible too... right before the flood... Read Genesis 6:1-4
I go along with what blackwomenblowthetrumpet said that there were other books, but they might not have been written by those inspired by God... or they might not have been necessary to include them in the canon.
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